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  • By rubenhernandez57 | Sat, 2008-06-21 19:45

    Mr. Reyes,

    Could you please call me at (408) 314-2027. I'm interested in talking to you about Diego Flores de la Torre.

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    From: egomezreyes

    >
    > I just joined your group and am very interested in the line from Jalos. We
    > share the same ancestors (and I agree that that would be the case for many from
    > Jalos). The children mentioned of Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Ana Gonzales
    > Florida included Theresa who married Diego Flores de la Torre. Their daughter
    > Juana married Tomas Martin del Campo. They had 9 children. Their daughter
    > Cecilia married Jose Joaquin Gutierrez... These are my ancestors. I'm very
    > pleased to meet others who have done some serious research in Jalos.
    >
    > I hope to join you when you meet again. I note that you are meeting today in
    > Wildomar. I am looking forward to the next meeting.
    >
    >

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    egomezreyes

    17 years 4 months ago

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    Jalostotitlan

    It was a pleasure speaking with you. As I mentioned, I don't have other information on Diego Flores de la Torre except that he married Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo who was born about 1632. Their daughter Juan Flores de la Torre was born about 1656 in Juchipila, Zacatecas and she married Tomas Martin del Campo who was born about 1652 in San Juan de Los Lagos, Jalisco. Their children were: Cecilia (b:1694 in San Juan de Los Lagos, d: 03 mar 1778) Antonia (b: abt 1684); Clara (b:1690), Maria Magdalena (b:1693), Maria (b:1683), Esteban (b:1678) Josefa born in 1692. I hope this information is helpful

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    mendezdetorres

    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Jalostotitlan by egomezreyes

    Jalostotitlan

    Maybe I can help I have a very large database and also growing for All of Los ALtos and can call myself a pro in Jalos. research. -Daniel
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    gnzlzspd

    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Jalostotitlan by mendezdetorres

    Jalostotitlan

    Hi Daniel:

    I am really impressed with your expertise! How much time do you spend
    researching all of the families you mention? How long have you been
    researching?

    I would like to take you up on your offer of help.

    I am interested in knowing how far back in time you have researched "Juan
    Gonzalez de Hermosillo"
    What have you found out about him?

    Thank you.
    John Gonzalez

    If you prefer you can contact me directly at: 1gnzlz@verizon.net

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Daniel Mendez"
    To:
    Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 22:37
    Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jalostotitlan

    Maybe I can help I have a very large database and also growing for All of
    Los ALtos and can call myself a pro in Jalos. research. -Daniel

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    Lamomexico

    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Jalostotitlan by gnzlzspd

    Jalostotitlan

    Daniel Mendez.

    I was wondering if you have any families in your database that are from the following last names. Mora, Camarena, Lopez, or Garcia. I am a descendent of Miguel Mora of La Barca, Jalisco born in 1888 in La Barca. His mother was Adelaida Lopez.

    Daniel Briones> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:40:34 -0700> From: 1gnzlz@verizon.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jalostotitlan> > Hi Daniel:> > I am really impressed with your expertise! How much time do you spend > researching all of the families you mention? How long have you been > researching?> > I would like to take you up on your offer of help.> > I am interested in knowing how far back in time you have researched "Juan > Gonzalez de Hermosillo"> What have you found out about him?> > Thank you.> John Gonzalez> > If you prefer you can contact me directly at: 1gnzlz@verizon.net> > =========================================================================================> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Mendez" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 22:37> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jalostotitlan> > > > Maybe I can help I have a very large database and also growing for All of > Los ALtos and can call myself a pro in Jalos. research. -Daniel> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Jalostotitlan by Lamomexico

    Jalostotitlan

    I have theses last names for Los Altos but only from 1500's-1720's. This is the case for most
    families. Sorry but if you have any lines in this time period I could prob help you a lot. -Daniel
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    Miguel Gutierr…

    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Jalostotitlan by gnzlzspd

    to John Gonzalez re Maria Antonia de Jesus Franco

    John, I went to your file and I notice that we are related with Maria Antonia de Jesus Franco. My ancestor is Maria de la Nieves so Jose Blas Franco is our common ancestor. On the other side Your Pedro Gutierrez is the brother of my ancestor Jose Dionicio born 1814 so Florentino de San Miguel Gutierrez is also our common ancestor. Is your information more detailed than what you gave Nuestros ranchos. I have more as I assume so do you.

    Miguel

    gnzlzspd

    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to to John Gonzalez re Maria Antonia de Jesus Franco by Miguel Gutierr…

    re Maria Antonia de JesusFranco

    Hola Primo:

    You are right! Maria Antonia de Jesus Franco and Maria de la nieves were
    sisters.
    I dont have any information on Pedro Gutierrez.

    I should update the file, it doesnt show the ancestors of Florentino de San
    Miguel Gutierrez.

    These are Pedro Gutierrez and Candia Gonzalez children: Do you have them
    already?

    Maria del Refugio Gutierrez Gonzalez
    Jose Concepcion
    Julio
    Anacleto
    Simon
    Justo del Refugio
    Jose de Jesus
    Doroteo

    Pedro Gutierrez direct Paternal line of ancestors, starting with Pedro: Did
    you have these already?

    Pedro Gutierrez
    Florentino de San Miguel Gutierrez
    Esteban Antonio Gutierrez de Hermosillo
    Lazaro Gutierrez de Hermosillo
    Lazaro Gutierrez de Hermosillo
    Francisco Gutierrez Rubio
    Miguel Gutierrez Rubio
    Francisco Gutierrez Rubio

    I am interested in seeing what information you might have. If you need some
    more specific information on somebody let me know, I'll see what I have.

    John

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    >
    > John, I went to your file and I notice that we are related with Maria
    > Antonia de Jesus Franco. My ancestor is Maria de la Nieves so Jose Blas
    > Franco is our common ancestor. On the other side Your Pedro Gutierrez is
    > the brother of my ancestor Jose Dionicio born 1814 so Florentino de San
    > Miguel Gutierrez is also our common ancestor. Is your information more
    > detailed than what you gave Nuestros ranchos. I have more as I assume so
    > do you.

    Miguel Gutierr…

    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to re Maria Antonia de JesusFranco by gnzlzspd

    re Maria Antonia de JesusFranco

    John, sorry I missed your meeting , I had planned to go but too many things on my plate. My daughter's birthday was that day. I do have the ancestor tree for Pedro. You also had Julio and Maria del Rosario as kids , is this still correct.
    Im sure we are related one hundred times.
    Miguel
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: John Gonzalez
    To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:23 AM
    Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] re Maria Antonia de JesusFranco

    Hola Primo:

    You are right! Maria Antonia de Jesus Franco and Maria de la nieves were
    sisters.
    I dont have any information on Pedro Gutierrez.

    I should update the file, it doesnt show the ancestors of Florentino de San
    Miguel Gutierrez.

    These are Pedro Gutierrez and Candia Gonzalez children: Do you have them
    already?

    Maria del Refugio Gutierrez Gonzalez
    Jose Concepcion
    Julio
    Anacleto
    Simon
    Justo del Refugio
    Jose de Jesus
    Doroteo

    Pedro Gutierrez direct Paternal line of ancestors, starting with Pedro: Did
    you have these already?

    Pedro Gutierrez
    Florentino de San Miguel Gutierrez
    Esteban Antonio Gutierrez de Hermosillo
    Lazaro Gutierrez de Hermosillo
    Lazaro Gutierrez de Hermosillo
    Francisco Gutierrez Rubio
    Miguel Gutierrez Rubio
    Francisco Gutierrez Rubio

    I am interested in seeing what information you might have. If you need some
    more specific information on somebody let me know, I'll see what I have.

    John

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    >
    > John, I went to your file and I notice that we are related with Maria
    > Antonia de Jesus Franco. My ancestor is Maria de la Nieves so Jose Blas
    > Franco is our common ancestor. On the other side Your Pedro Gutierrez is
    > the brother of my ancestor Jose Dionicio born 1814 so Florentino de San
    > Miguel Gutierrez is also our common ancestor. Is your information more
    > detailed than what you gave Nuestros ranchos. I have more as I assume so
    > do you.

    gnzlzspd

    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to re Maria Antonia de JesusFranco by Miguel Gutierr…

    re Maria Antonia de JesusFranco

    Hi Miguel:

    No need to feel sorry about not attending the meeting. About 15 people had
    expressed interest in attending but on the day of the meeting there were
    only six of us present. Maybe for the next one we'll have a crowd.

    Julio and Maria del Rosario are kids.

    Tu Primo

    John Gonzalez
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    > John, sorry I missed your meeting , I had planned to go but too many
    > things on my plate. My daughter's birthday was that day. I do have the
    > ancestor tree for Pedro. You also had Julio and Maria del Rosario as kids
    > , is this still correct.
    > Im sure we are related one hundred times.
    > Miguel

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    mendezdetorres

    17 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Jalostotitlan by egomezreyes

    Jalostotitlan

    They also had Teresa Martín del Campo and Juana Flores de la Torre
    Here is Diego Flores' (the one who married Teresa de Hermosillo ) Genealogy (Juana, mother's father) -Daniel Méndez del Camino y Camino

    /Diego Flores de la Torre
    Diego Flores de la Torre /Pedro de Anda Altamirano
    / \Beatriz de Anda Altamirano
    Diego Flores de la Torre \Beatriz González de Castañeda
    \ /Juan Arias de Avellaneda y Valdés
    Isabel Arias de Orozco
    \María de Orozco

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