By chilerey54 |

Hola a todos de Nuestros Ranchos. I was browsing at www.somosprimos.com went to the search block and put- padilla davila. I then scrolled to Descendents of Lord Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza,compiled by John D Inclan. I appears according to what I read that I and many if not all of us are related to all of the people of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. John Inclans research touches much of Jalisco ,Zacatecas ,Aguascalientes ,All the north eastern states of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. I was was tripping. If any one has an e-mail to John D Inclan I would like to ask him if any of the Hurtado de Mendoza are tha same as an in example of Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. I was wondering also what you members opinion of John Inclan research .
Ronnie Reynoso
pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco

Just a short note, isn't that the same thing as saying we're all related to Adam and Eve?

Jose Carlos de Leon

John Inclan's e-mail address appears on that SomosPrimos website:
fromgalveston@yahoo.com

I hope he answers you. He has never responded to me. He seems to have done a lot of research and has accessed many resources that many of us have not. He also generously shares much of his research for free via genealogy websites.

Sure, we at Nuestros Ranchos can find commons ancestors in Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes, but not all branches have descendants in Tamaulipas, Nuevo Leon, Chihuahua, Texas and New Mexico.

I see you have Arellano in your ancestry. I have Felix de Arellano.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:08 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos Primos

Hola a todos de Nuestros Ranchos. I was browsing at www.somosprimos.com went to the search block and put- padilla davila. I then scrolled to Descendents of Lord Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza,compiled by John D Inclan. I appears according to what I read that I and many if not all of us are related to all of the people of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. John Inclans research touches much of Jalisco ,Zacatecas ,Aguascalientes ,All the north eastern states of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. I was was tripping. If any one has an e-mail to John D Inclan I would like to ask him if any of the Hurtado de Mendoza are tha same as an in example of Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. I was wondering also what you members opinion of John Inclan research .
Ronnie Reynoso
pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco

The Inclan work is fabulous, and he has always replied to me within minutes!

Thank you John for your research...............phyls esparza

----- Original Message -----
From: "Emilie Garcia"
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos Primos

> John Inclan's e-mail address appears on that SomosPrimos website:
> fromgalveston@yahoo.com
>
> I hope he answers you. He has never responded to me. He seems to have done a lot of research and has accessed many resources that many of us have not. He also generously shares much of his research for free via genealogy websites.
>
> Sure, we at Nuestros Ranchos can find commons ancestors in Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes, but not all branches have descendants in Tamaulipas, Nuevo Leon, Chihuahua, Texas and New Mexico.
>
> I see you have Arellano in your ancestry. I have Felix de Arellano.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ronald Reynoso
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:08 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos Primos
>
>
>
> Hola a todos de Nuestros Ranchos. I was browsing at www.somosprimos.com went to the search block and put- padilla davila. I then scrolled to Descendents of Lord Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza,compiled by John D Inclan. I appears according to what I read that I and many if not all of us are related to all of the people of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. Ctouches much of Jalisco ,Zacatecas ,Aguascalientes ,All the north eastern states of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. I was was tripping. If any one has an e-mail to John D Inclan I would like to ask him if any of the Hurtado de Mendoza are tha same as an in example of Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. I was wondering also what you members opinion of John Inclan research .
> Ronnie Reynoso
> pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco

Ronald,

I am familiar with Inclan's research and it is well respected.

Also, and independent of Inclan's research, I can confirm through my own
research in my family tree, that Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza (aka Isabel
Velasco de Mendoza and wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano) was the
daughter of Ana Maria de Cardenas Francisco Hurtado de Mendoza, Marquez de
Almazan... ... and on and on for many generations.

Where do you tie in with this line?

Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California

> [Original Message]
> From: Ronald Reynoso
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: 2/16/2008 12:08:48 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos Primos
>
>
> Hola a todos de Nuestros Ranchos. I was browsing at www.somosprimos.com
went to the search block and put- padilla davila. I then scrolled to
Descendents of Lord Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza,compiled by John D Inclan. I
appears according to what I read that I and many if not all of us are
related to all of the people of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. John Inclans
research touches much of Jalisco ,Zacatecas ,Aguascalientes ,All the north
eastern states of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. I was was tripping. If any
one has an e-mail to John D Inclan I would like to ask him if any of the
Hurtado de Mendoza are tha same as an in example of Isabel Hurtado de
Mendoza wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. I was wondering also what
you members opinion of John Inclan research .
> Ronnie Reynoso
> pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco

Hola Efrain,Its kind of hard to tell how I tie in with Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza and Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. I can give you a round about number, its a mess .
Isabel and Toribio 2 daughters---
1)Maria hurtado de Mendoza Married to Rodrigo Olivares
4 daughters -
a)Isabel Olivares la Menor married to Juan Jimenez
2 of this couple children are my ancestors

b) Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza married to Luis Padilla Davila
1 child of this couple are my ancestor

c) Catalina de Mendoza married to Manuel Gomez
2 of this couple are my ancestors

d) Francisca Hurtado de Mendoza married to Francisco Gutierrez Rubio
2 of this couple are my ancestors plus through their children

2) Isabel Sanchez de Mendoza married to Alvaro Ornelas
1 child of this couple os my ancestor

Efrain ,I'm not counting because I get confused ,I also have more ancestor hook up via through the children of the people have mentioned.This is just fraction of the confusion or mess I have in my backround .There is so much intermarriage in my backround its mind boggling,so when I sign off saying ---Ronnie Reynoso pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco ---I pretty close .
I probably related to almost every major Founder of all of the towns in Los Altos . I would venture to say I'm probably related to almost every body in Nuestros Ranchos that have ancestors in the Los Altos area. To me this is kind of freaky/wierd but if it didn't happen this way I would not have been born ,so I guess I really can't complain for the actions of my ancestors.
I await your reply
Ronnie Reynoso pariente acsi todos de Los Altos
SOMOS PRIMOS

> From: conrique1@earthlink.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:27:40 -0800> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos Primos> > Ronald,> > I am familiar with Inclan's research and it is well respected.> > Also, and independent of Inclan's research, I can confirm through my own> research in my family tree, that Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza (aka Isabel> Velasco de Mendoza and wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano) was the> daughter of Ana Maria de Cardenas Francisco Hurtado de Mendoza, Marquez de> Almazan... ... and on and on for many generations.> > Where do you tie in with this line?> > Efrain Conrique> San Diego, California> > > > [Original Message]> > From: Ronald Reynoso > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org > > Date: 2/16/2008 12:08:48 PM> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos Primos> >> >> > Hola a todos de Nuestros Ranchos. I was browsing at www.somosprimos.com> went to the search block and put- padilla
davila. I then scrolled to > Descendents of Lord Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza,compiled by John D Inclan. I> appears according to what I read that I and many if not all of us are> related to all of the people of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. John Inclans> research touches much of Jalisco ,Zacatecas ,Aguascalientes ,All the north> eastern states of Mexico ,Texas,and New Mexico. I was was tripping. If any> one has an e-mail to John D Inclan I would like to ask him if any of the> Hurtado de Mendoza are tha same as an in example of Isabel Hurtado de> Mendoza wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. I was wondering also what> you members opinion of John Inclan research .> > Ronnie Reynoso > > pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> >> > To post, send email to:> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> >> > To change your subscription, log on to:> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > > -- -- -- -- -- --

Hello, Ronnie! I didn't know youre a descnendant of Alvaro de Ornelas! I guess were related again. According to the marriage info on the film and other sources on the internet. This Alvaro Ornelas was child of Mem de Ornelas, who was a granchild of the great Alvaro Ornelas, Lord of Ornelas. I have his genealogy if you want it. The Ornelas come from Joao I, King of Portugal.
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Hola Primo ,sure I'm game ,send mi info on Joao ,I liked to see how I'm connected. Right now I descend from Portuguese,Spanish,Italian,Jewish and Native American. There is probably more to come.
tu Primo
Ronnie > From: mormonboy74@hotmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:55:36 -0800> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos Primos> > > Hello, Ronnie! I didn't know youre a descnendant of Alvaro de Ornelas! I guess were related again. According to the marriage info on the film and other sources on the internet. This Alvaro Ornelas was child of Mem de Ornelas, who was a granchild of the great Alvaro Ornelas, Lord of Ornelas. I have his genealogy if you want it. The Ornelas come from Joao I, King of Portugal.> _________________________________________________________________> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_01…; -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

Yes, Based on my extensiv research on the Mendozas, all of them from Spain including the new world come from Pedro González, Señor de Mendoza. If any of you are a descendant of this very intelligent man, you are related to every Monarch of europe. There's only about 5 currently. We have to remember the great importance the Mendozas played in Spain. They are descended from the Kings of Navarra. The Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza from Jalisco, "her father was supposed to be Diego Hurtado de Mendoza who settled in los ALtos, but there's no proof! He came from Huelva, spain. Its hard to track down this Diego because in the same time period there was over 7 Diego Hurtado de Mendozas. I come from several lines from PEdo de Mendoza, but this is my main line.

Daniel Méndez del Camino b: 1992
José Gabriel Méndez y Cortés b: 1956
Martín Méndez de Serrano b: 1917
Lucía Gutiérrez de Serrano y Rubio de Mónrroy b: 1889
Juan José Gutiérrez de Serrano b: 1853
José Jesús Francisco de Serrano y de León b: 1825
Alexandro de Cerrano y de Ornelas b: 1799
María Juana Rafaela Alvina de Ornelas y García-Básquez de Lomelín b: 1770
Manuel Antonio de Ornelas y Báquez de Lara b: 1737
Gregorio de Ornelas y de la Crus b: 1713
Juan de Dios de Ornelas y Sánchez b: 1669
Andrés de Ornelas y de Orosco b: 1636
Alvaro IV de Ornelas y Hurtado de Mendoza, FIDALGO NOBLE b: 1598

This next person came from Portugal to the new world.

Alvaro III de Ornelas e de Vasconcellos, FIDALGO NOBLE b: 1561

Mem de Ornelas e de Moura, FIDALGO NOBLE b: 1530
Joao de Ornelas e Furtado de Mendoça, Príncipe de Portugal e Señor de Ornelas b: 1502

*Note if you have Ornelas bood, your a descendant of Joao I , King of Portugal

Constança Furtado de Mendoça b: 1465
Catarina Furtado de Mendoça b:
Afonso Furtado de Mendoça b:
María de Mendoça b: 1391
Diego Hurtado, Lord of Mendoza b: 1363
Pedro González, Lord of Mendoza b: 1323

If you continue they go to the Kings of Navarra

Gonzalo Yáñez, Lord of Mendoza
Diego Hurtado, Lord of Mendoza
Juan Hurtado, Lord of Mendoza
Hurtado Díaz, Lord of Mendoza
Diego López, Lord of Mendoza
Lope González, Lord of Mendoza
Gonzalo López, Lord of Mendoza
Lope Iñíguez, 1st Lord of Mendoza
Iñigo López, Lord of Llodio
Lope Sánchez, Lord of Llodio
Sancho Iñíguez, 1st Lord of Llodio
Iñigo López, Conde de Vizcaya
Lope Iñiguez de Maranon, 1st COnde de Vizcaya
Eneco Fortunátez, Lord of Maranón
Fortunato García, Lord of Maranón
García éncez de Pamplona, 1st Lord of Maraón
Eneco García, Prince of Pamplona
García I Iñíguez, King of Navarra

-Daniel Méndez del Camino

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I have found Mr. Inclan's genealogies extremely helpful, and he also is good about providing the sources. His email address is on his webpage, which I don't have handy, but he's not hard to find on the net. (He has been good at responding to my inquiries, despite the fact he must get a lot of emails!)

I found it useful to google a name/surname I was interested in, together with "Inclan", and usually the relevant genealogy popped up. Try that, before you write him, as a lot of information is already easily available. I absolutely recommend using his genealogies as a way in to the maze of family history.

Regards
Denise

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