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    By arturoramos | Thu, 2006-08-24 23:30

    Thank you so much for that information. I think that is definitely the
    correct Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... the records in Tlaltenango are simply
    missing the Ulloa but the dates and names otherwise match. So you think that
    she is the daughter of Maria Ruiz de Esparza and Nicolas Ulloa?

    What is the book that you are working on?

    Does anybody have the referenced Teocaltiche film so that they can look up
    the parents of these two spouses for me?

    =====================
    From: Rose Hardy
    Date: 2006/08/25 Fri AM 12:02:37 CDT
    To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Arturo,According to the

    Arturo,

    According to the IGI-

    JN. DE ESCOBEDO
    Marriages:
    Spouse: TERESA DE ULLOA Family
    Marriage: 06 JAN 1669 Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
    Jalisco, Mexico
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---
    Source Information:
    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
    M602486 1637 - 1669 0639754

    In Nicolas de Anda Sanchez's new book he has listed Teresa as Teresa Ulloa
    Ruiz Esparza married Capt. Juan de Escobedo on 6 June 1669 in Teocaltiche.

    In my book I'm working on, I have:

    Ruiz de Esparza, Maria
    The daughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Francisca Gabay. She married Nicolas
    de Ulloa. Her parents were known residents of Aguascalientes from 1622 to
    1652. She is mentioned in the requested marriage dispensation of her
    granddaughter, Elvira de Ulloa to Joseph de Torres on 1 January 1689 in
    Teocaltiche, Jalisco.

    Rose Gonzales-Hardy

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    enriquelegaspi

    19 years 2 months ago

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    Distances: Teocaltiche, Nochistlan, Mexticacan & Aguascalientes

    The towns are almost a stone's throw from each other. Today, driving time is 10-15 minutes. As a kid I rode a bicyle and it took me 1 hour to 1 1/2 hour. Logically on horseback it is 2 hours max. The same goes for Mexticacan, but in the opposite direction from Teocaltiche. Therefore, its is very likely that the old families in the region scattered about amongs all the towns (including La Estancia).

    Today the drive to Aguascalientes from Nochistlan is 1 hour. Starting in Nochistlan, the road to "Aguas" as the locals call it, will take you past La Estancia, Apulco, through Teocaltiche, past the fork in the road to Jalostotitlan and Lagos de Moreno and finally Aguascalientes.

    Enrique Legaspi Frias

    Arturo Ramos wrote:
    Rose:

    Thank you so much for that information. I think that is definitely the
    correct Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... the records in Tlaltenango are simply
    missing the Ulloa but the dates and names otherwise match. So you think that
    she is the daughter of Maria Ruiz de Esparza and Nicolas Ulloa?

    What is the book that you are working on?

    Does anybody have the referenced Teocaltiche film so that they can look up
    the parents of these two spouses for me?

    =====================
    From: Rose Hardy
    Date: 2006/08/25 Fri AM 12:02:37 CDT
    To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Arturo,According to the

    Arturo,

    According to the IGI-

    JN. DE ESCOBEDO
    Marriages:
    Spouse: TERESA DE ULLOA Family
    Marriage: 06 JAN 1669 Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
    Jalisco, Mexico
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---
    Source Information:
    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
    M602486 1637 - 1669 0639754

    In Nicolas de Anda Sanchez's new book he has listed Teresa as Teresa Ulloa
    Ruiz Esparza married Capt. Juan de Escobedo on 6 June 1669 in Teocaltiche.

    In my book I'm working on, I have:

    Ruiz de Esparza, Maria
    The daughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Francisca Gabay. She married Nicolas
    de Ulloa. Her parents were known residents of Aguascalientes from 1622 to
    1652. She is mentioned in the requested marriage dispensation of her
    granddaughter, Elvira de Ulloa to Joseph de Torres on 1 January 1689 in
    Teocaltiche, Jalisco.

    Rose Gonzales-Hardy

    Rose Hardy

    19 years 2 months ago

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    In reply to Distances: Teocaltiche, Nochistlan, Mexticacan & Aguascalientes by enriquelegaspi

    TERESA DE ULLOA y JN. DE ESCOBEDO

    Arturo

    I do believe her father is Nicolas Ulloa. I also noticed in Nicolas de Anda Sanchez's book that he listed a confirmation of a Teresa Ulloa who's parents were Juan de Ulloa and Maria Ruiz de Esparza. The date of the confirmation was 6 Jan 1654 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco.

    The book I'm working on is my direct line that goes back to the early days of Aguascalientes in a dictionary type format. More like a who's who. My families are the Ruiz de Esparza, Romo de Vivars, Tiscareno's, Munos de Hermosillo's to name a few.

    Rose

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