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  • By agustin mota | Tue, 2007-04-10 21:00

    agustin mota wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
    From: agustin mota
    Subject: Suniga -Luna
    To:

    I am looking for my lost family can you help? The only information i have is oral history. My grandfathers name was Asencion Luna Haro born around 1892 in Cuculiten Jalisco. My great grandfathers name was Crespin Luna he married Severiana Haro both i believe from the same area.my grandmothers name was Clemencia Suniga born around 1910, married at age 13 died at about age20. after there marrige nothing was ever herd about the Suniga elders. My great grandfathers name was Pedro Suniga i was told came from the Tepetongo area.I was told years ago and recently that there had been a fire in Momax and that these records were lost. My aunts have birth certificates but they provided the information so that the certificate could be made.I know this for a fact.So any information will help get started.I am also reaserching Mota,Herrera,Alvares all from the Momax area these names are progresing due to other records.Thank you all Agustin from northern Sonoma county.

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    makas_nc

    18 years 4 months ago

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    Fwd: Suniga -Luna

    this has been a confusion to me. In Jalisco and in Zacatecas I have seen
    on maps a Coculitlen/Coculiten and then a Cuculiten/Cuculitlen (not sure
    if the "tlen" is correct on either). Anyway I know that there was a
    Cuculitlen in Zacatecas and those records are sometimes found in the
    Tlaltenango films. Go to www.familysearch.org and find your local Family
    History Center, pay them a visit and order some film:

    Title
    *Registros parroquiales, 1630-1961*

    Authors
    *Iglesia Católica (Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas) (Main Author)*

    Notes
    *Microfilm de manuscritos en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román.
    Catholic church parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages
    and deaths from Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas, Mexico.
    Text in Spanish.*

    Subjects
    * México, Zacatecas, Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román - Church records*

    Format
    * Manuscript (On Film)*

    Language
    * Spanish*

    Publication
    * Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por The Genealogical Society of Utah,
    1961-1978*

    Physical
    * 177 rollos de microfilm ; 35 mm., 16 mm.*

    Film Notes
    Note - Location [Film]
    *
    Bautismos 1884-1890 - FHL INTL Film [ 443824 ]
    Bautismos 1890-1895 - FHL INTL Film [ 443825 ]
    Bautismos 1895-1901 - FHL INTL Film [ 443826 ]*

    If indeed you are looking for Momax films then here are some possible
    films to order:

    Title
    *Registros parroquiales, 1776-1961*

    Authors
    *Iglesia Católica (Momax, Zacatecas) (Main Author)*

    Notes
    *Microfilm de manuscritos en Momax.
    Algunos tomos incluyen índice.
    Los registros de esta parroquia de Momax incluyen varios lugares de los
    municipios de Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román en Zacatecas y Colotlán en
    Jalisco.
    Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages and deaths from
    Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico.*

    Subjects
    * México, Zacatecas, Momax - Church records
    México, Jalisco, Refugio - Church records*

    Format
    * Manuscript (On Film)*

    Language
    * Spanish*

    Publication
    * Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1962*

    Physical
    * 37 rollos de microfilm ; 35 mm.*

    Film Notes
    Note - Location [Film]
    *Bautismos 1776-1811 - FHL INTL Film [ 443987 ]
    Bautismos 1811-1829 - FHL INTL Film [ 443988 ]
    Bautismos 1829-1850 - FHL INTL Film [ 443989 ]
    Bautismos 1850-1878 - FHL INTL Film [ 443990 ]
    Bautismos 1878-1892 - FHL INTL Film [ 443991 ]
    Bautismos 1892-1905 - FHL INTL Film [ 443992 ]
    Bautismos 1905-1919 - FHL INTL Film [ 443993 ]

    if you are looking in the Tepetongo area then here are films to order:

    *

    Title
    *Registros parroquiales, 1750-1972*

    Authors
    *Iglesia Católica. San Juan Bautista (Tepetongo, Zacatecas) (Main Author)*

    Notes
    *Microfilme de manuscritos en los archivos de la parroquia y del
    Obispado de Zacatecas.
    Algunos de los libros incluyen índice.
    Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriage petitions and
    marriages, and deaths from Tepetongo, Zacatecas, Mexico.*

    Subjects
    * México, Zacatecas, Tepetongo - Church records*

    Format
    * Manuscript (On Film)*

    Language
    * Spanish*

    Publication
    * Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah,
    1978, 1988*

    Physical
    * 51 rollos de microfilme ; 35 mm., 16 mm.*

    Film Notes
    Note - Location [Film]
    *Bautismos 1750-1770, 1775-1780, 1786-1808, 1812-1817 - FHL INTL Film [
    1158146 ]
    Bautismos 1818-1831 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158147 ]
    Bautismos 1831-1847 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158148 ]
    Bautismos 1847-1858 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158149 ]
    Bautismos 1859, 1862-1870 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158150 ]
    Bautismos 1871-1881 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158151 ]
    Bautismos 1881-1891 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158152 ]
    Bautismos 1891-1907 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158153 ]
    Bautismos 1907-1916 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158154 ]
    Bautismos 1916-1932 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158155 ]
    Bautismos 1932-1937 - FHL INTL Film [ 1158156 ]
    Bautismos de hijos naturales 1843-1860,1862-1919 - FHL INTL Film [
    1158157 ]

    *agustin mota wrote:
    > agustin mota wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
    > From: agustin mota
    > Subject: Suniga -Luna
    > To:
    >
    > I am looking for my lost family can you help? The only information i have is oral history. My grandfathers name was Asencion Luna Haro born around 1892 in Cuculiten Jalisco. My great grandfathers name was Crespin Luna he married Severiana Haro both i believe from the same area.my grandmothers name was Clemencia Suniga born around 1910, married at age 13 died at about age20. after there marrige nothing was ever herd about the Suniga elders. My great grandfathers name was Pedro Suniga i was told came from the Tepetongo area.I was told years ago and recently that there had been a fire in Momax and that these records were lost. My aunts have birth certificates but they provided the information so that the certificate could be made.I know this for a fact.So any information will help get started.I am also reaserching Mota,Herrera,Alvares all from the Momax area these names are progresing due to other records.Thank you all Agustin from northern Sonoma county.
    >
    >
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    Pat Silva Corbera

    18 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Fwd: Suniga -Luna by makas_nc

    : Suniga -Luna

    Agustin from northern Sonoma county,

    Will you please list the Mota and Herrera individulas that you are researching from Momax?
    Is the Suniga surname the same as Zuniga?

    Thank You,
    Pat Silva Corbera

    agustin mota

    18 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to : Suniga -Luna by Pat Silva Corbera

    : Suniga -Luna

    Patricia Corbera wrote: Agustin from northern Sonoma county,

    Will you please list the Mota and Herrera individulas that you are researching from Momax?
    Is the Suniga surname the same as Zuniga?

    Thank You,
    Pat Silva C
    Pat here are some of the names I am researching, my grandfather Vicente Mota Raigosa born 1-9-1897 His first wife Nicolasa Alvares. Los Aguajes Jalisco. Mygreat grandfather, Agustin Mota Herrera born8-281862 Coculiten Jalisco. His wife was Guillerma Raigosa. My great great grandfather Vicente Mota born 4-20-1853 His wife was Francisca Herrera de Luna born abt1846. And yes the corect spelling is Zuniga. Thank you for your intrest Agustin.

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    Pat Silva Corbera

    18 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to : Suniga -Luna by agustin mota

    : Suniga -Luna

    Agustin,

    Thank you... Good luck with your research!

    Pat Silva Corbera
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "agustin mota"
    To:
    Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:00 PM
    Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] : Suniga -Luna

    >
    >
    > Patricia Corbera wrote: Agustin from northern
    > Sonoma county,
    >
    > Will you please list the Mota and Herrera individulas that you are
    > researching from Momax?
    > Is the Suniga surname the same as Zuniga?
    >
    > Thank You,
    > Pat Silva C
    > Pat here are some of the names I am researching, my grandfather Vicente
    > Mota Raigosa born 1-9-1897 His first wife Nicolasa Alvares. Los Aguajes
    > Jalisco. Mygreat grandfather, Agustin Mota Herrera born8-281862 Coculiten
    > Jalisco. His wife was Guillerma Raigosa. My great great grandfather
    > Vicente Mota born 4-20-1853 His wife was Francisca Herrera de Luna born
    > abt1846. And yes the corect spelling is Zuniga. Thank you for your intrest
    > Agustin.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    arturoramos

    18 years 4 months ago

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    Coculiten

    Joseph/Agustin:

    Coculiten is in present days part of the municipality of Momax, Zacatecas, right on the border with Colotlan, Jalisco. Before a seperate parrish was set up in Momax, baptisms from this town were performed in Tlaltenango.

    That being said, Agustin, you are right that many of the registro civil records for Momax are missing... i.e. only the following records are filmed by the FHL:

    Nacimientos 1876-1882, 1912-1913 -- Matrimonios 1875-1877, 1879-1880, 1885-1887, 1912-1915 -- Defunciones 1871-1876, 1878-1886, 1912

    VAULT INTL Film 2245129 Items 1 - 8

    However, the church records are a bit more promising, in particular all of the baptisms for the years in question exist:

    Bautismos 1878-1892 FHL INTL Film 443991
    Bautismos 1892-1905 FHL INTL Film 443992

    as well as the marriage films, though you will have to sift through informacion matrimonial:

    Información matrimonial 1874-1877 FHL INTL Film 444000
    Información matrimonial 1879-1886 VAULT INTL Film 444001
    Información matrimonial 1886-1894 FHL INTL Film 444002
    Información matrimonial 1894-1901 FHL INTL Film 444003

    Many of the Momax films are indexed and can be searched online:

    http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/films/Zacatecas/2030

    lunalatina1955

    18 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Coculiten by arturoramos

    : Suniga -Luna

    Might your Francisca Herrera de Luna's parents be called Ramon Herrera and
    Maria Felipa De Luna. Family search data says Francisca was born in Santo
    Tomas, Momax.

    I am interested in both surnames, as I believe that people from Tlaltenango
    and Momax travelled to and from frequently. My family is from Tlaltenango.

    Esperanza
    Chicagoland area

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    agustin mota

    18 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to : Suniga -Luna by lunalatina1955

    : Suniga -Luna

    Yes you are corect Ramon Herrera and Maria Felipa De Luna were maried in 1829 acording to the LDS information. This part of my family is from Los Aguajes and Coculiten.Some other surnames Haro,Alvares, Raigosa and Marques.If you are from Chicago there is a large concentration of family from this region. My problem is not having recent history so that I can research my families past, on the Luna and Zuniga side. Thanx again and good luck with your search. Agustin

    Latina1955@aol.com wrote: Might your Francisca Herrera de Luna's parents be called Ramon Herrera and
    Maria Felipa De Luna. Family search data says Francisca was born in Santo
    Tomas, Momax.

    I am interested in both surnames, as I believe that people from Tlaltenango
    and Momax travelled to and from frequently. My family is from Tlaltenango.

    Esperanza
    Chicagoland area

    ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    makas_nc

    18 years 4 months ago

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    In reply to Coculiten by arturoramos

    Coculiten

    here a marginally good map:

    http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/joseph27703/images/goodtepechitlan_c…

    arturoramos wrote:
    > Joseph/Agustin:
    >
    > Coculiten is in present days part of the municipality of Momax, Zacatecas, right on the border with Colotlan, Jalisco. Before a seperate parrish was set up in Momax, baptisms from this town were performed in Tlaltenango.
    >
    > That being said, Agustin, you are right that many of the registro civil records for Momax are missing... i.e. only the following records are filmed by the FHL:
    >
    > Nacimientos 1876-1882, 1912-1913 -- Matrimonios 1875-1877, 1879-1880, 1885-1887, 1912-1915 -- Defunciones 1871-1876, 1878-1886, 1912
    >
    > VAULT INTL Film 2245129 Items 1 - 8
    >
    > However, the church records are a bit more promising, in particular all of the baptisms for the years in question exist:
    >
    > Bautismos 1878-1892 FHL INTL Film 443991
    > Bautismos 1892-1905 FHL INTL Film 443992
    >
    > as well as the marriage films, though you will have to sift through informacion matrimonial:
    >
    > Información matrimonial 1874-1877 FHL INTL Film 444000
    > Información matrimonial 1879-1886 VAULT INTL Film 444001
    > Información matrimonial 1886-1894 FHL INTL Film 444002
    > Información matrimonial 1894-1901 FHL INTL Film 444003
    >
    > Many of the Momax films are indexed and can be searched online:
    >
    > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/films/Zacatecas/2030

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