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Introduction - Cardona/Saucedo Research

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  • By CThreadgill | Tue, 2014-02-04 00:00

    Hello,

    My name is Christine Cardona Threadgill and I am researching the surnames
    Cardona and Saucedo from Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes. My great-great
    grandfather was Lino Saucedo born about 1875 in Aguascalientes. I do not
    have marriage records for him but prior to 1901 he would have met
    Guadalupe, her last name is not known for sure, however based on a baptism
    record found on the LDS website with misspelling on the last name Saucedo
    as (Aucedo) her maiden name may have been Peres. Together they had my
    great-grandmother Gregoria Guadalupe Saucedo born November 27, 1901 in
    Rincon de Romos. If that baptism record is correct she was baptized
    December 15, 1901 in Rincon de Romos. Her younger brother was Pedro Saucedo
    born 1904 also in Rincon de Romos. The story my great-grandmother Gregoria
    always told me was that her mother died when she was very young, however my
    mother told me she later heard that the truth was her mother abandoned
    their family. I haven't been able to find any death or divorce records but
    I guess either one would answer what really happened.

    My great-grandma Gregoria also told me that her father was very strict and
    did not approve of her marrying my great-grandfather, Marcos Ramos Cardona,
    as he was also much older than her. I was told they almost had trouble
    finding a priest to perform the ceremony, and as their first child was born
    in 1918, I would assume their marriage was possibly 1917 or so, making my
    grandmother about 16 years old. Their first daughter Guadalupe (Lupe)
    Cardona was born 1918 in Aguascalientes, and their second daughter Juana
    Cardona was born in 1922 presumably in Aguascalientes as well. I was told
    she had one other child that possibly was stillborn or died soon after
    birth, that was buried in Mexico in a border town, assuming she had this
    baby before my great-aunt Juana it makes me think maybe Juana would have
    been born in a border town. I have her border crossing record which shows
    she came alone with her then only two daughters on April 10, 1923 through
    El Paso, Texas. My great-grandfather had come beforehand and I was told he
    worked in America and saved enough money to send for my great-grandma.
    Based on a 1930 Mexican census both Lino Saucedo and Pedro Saucedo had
    remained in Aguascalientes, and lived in a hacienda known as Saucillo.
    Based on the census Lino had entered a domestic partnership with a woman
    named Ramona Palacio. I am also told by my great-aunts that Pedro had a
    wife named Anita, yet I did not see her on the census, so he may have been
    married after 1930.

    Marcos Cardona was born April 25, 1886 based on the records I have from the
    cemetery, however I was told by family that some were not sure exactly when
    he was born. I know much less about his family as he passed away in 1950 in
    Tulare, California. I know he had several siblings, and traveled to America
    with brothers Daniel and Maximilliano. I also have a border crossing record
    for him showing an arrival date of April 7, 1923 in El Paso Texas, and on
    this record it says his approximate birth year was 1891. I don't know
    either of his parents names, but based on his death record his mother's
    maiden name was Ramos. He also had a sister named Daria that remained in
    Mexico along with other siblings.
    I also remember my great-grandmother Gregoria (Americanized name was
    Georgia) telling me how she hated her name, and it was given to her after
    her grandmother, or an aunt, I can't remember which one, or on which side
    of her family. After moving to America my great-grandparents moved to
    Ventura County in California and had 6 more children, Eloisa (Elsie)
    Cardona in 1924, Living Cardona in 1926, Monica Cardona in 1928, Living
    Cardona 1930 and my grandfather (living) in 1936. They also had two other
    children who passed away in America, one for sure was a baby named Esther,
    and the other was possibly stillborn or a baby, I don't know the name.
    Gregoria passed away in Fillmore, California in 2004.

    I am trying to find any links back to Mexico as well as any records which
    will give me more information on my family and hopefully I can find
    information on previous generations.

    http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/CThreadgill

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    jcaguayo

    11 years 9 months ago

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    Introduction - Cardona/Saucedo Research

    Christine,

    I made one typo. Marcos' paternal grandfather is listed as Maximiano not
    Maximiliano.
    You can also look up Marcos' sibling's baptisms to check for consistency in
    the names as well.

    Juan

    On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Juan Aguayo wrote:

    > Hi Christine,
    >
    > Based on the information you have provided and a quick search I have found
    > the following link:
    >
    >
    >
    > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11779-41353-50?cc=1502404&…
    >
    > Jose Marcos Cardona Ramos was baptized on July 1, 1888 in Rincon de Romos,
    > Aguascalientes. He was born in El Saucillio at 6am, 14 days prior to his
    > baptism. Marcos is the son of Justo Cardona Castaneda and Pilar Ramos
    > Castorena. His paternal grandparents are Maximiliano Cardona and Valentina
    > Castaneda and his maternal grandparents are Matias Ramos and Eduviges
    > Castorena.
    >
    > I've attached a screen shot of the link above. Based on doing a search in
    > the 1880s it looks like this Marcos did have a brother named Daniel like
    > you mentioned above. His other siblings include Vicente and Rosalio. He may
    > have other sibilings but these are the ones I found in a quick search (see
    > other attachment). I would guess that this is your relative based on the
    > location, names and dates provided: Rincon de Romos Marcos, Vicente and
    > maternal name of Ramos from the 1880s.
    >
    > Saludos,
    > Juan Aguayo
    >
    >
    > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Christine Cardona-Threadgill <
    > christinecardonat@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> My name is Christine Cardona Threadgill and I am researching the surnames
    >> Cardona and Saucedo from Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes. My great-great
    >> grandfather was Lino Saucedo born about 1875 in Aguascalientes. I do not
    >> have marriage records for him but prior to 1901 he would have met
    >> Guadalupe, her last name is not known for sure, however based on a baptism
    >> record found on the LDS website with misspelling on the last name Saucedo
    >> as (Aucedo) her maiden name may have been Peres. Together they had my
    >> great-grandmother Gregoria Guadalupe Saucedo born November 27, 1901 in
    >> Rincon de Romos. If that baptism record is correct she was baptized
    >> December 15, 1901 in Rincon de Romos. Her younger brother was Pedro
    >> Saucedo
    >> born 1904 also in Rincon de Romos. The story my great-grandmother Gregoria
    >> always told me was that her mother died when she was very young, however
    >> my
    >> mother told me she later heard that the truth was her mother abandoned
    >> their family. I haven't been able to find any death or divorce records but
    >> I guess either one would answer what really happened.
    >>
    >> My great-grandma Gregoria also told me that her father was very strict and
    >> did not approve of her marrying my great-grandfather, Marcos Ramos
    >> Cardona,
    >> as he was also much older than her. I was told they almost had trouble
    >> finding a priest to perform the ceremony, and as their first child was
    >> born
    >> in 1918, I would assume their marriage was possibly 1917 or so, making my
    >> grandmother about 16 years old. Their first daughter Guadalupe (Lupe)
    >> Cardona was born 1918 in Aguascalientes, and their second daughter Juana
    >> Cardona was born in 1922 presumably in Aguascalientes as well. I was told
    >> she had one other child that possibly was stillborn or died soon after
    >> birth, that was buried in Mexico in a border town, assuming she had this
    >> baby before my great-aunt Juana it makes me think maybe Juana would have
    >> been born in a border town. I have her border crossing record which shows
    >> she came alone with her then only two daughters on April 10, 1923 through
    >> El Paso, Texas. My great-grandfather had come beforehand and I was told he
    >> worked in America and saved enough money to send for my great-grandma.
    >> Based on a 1930 Mexican census both Lino Saucedo and Pedro Saucedo had
    >> remained in Aguascalientes, and lived in a hacienda known as Saucillo.
    >> Based on the census Lino had entered a domestic partnership with a woman
    >> named Ramona Palacio. I am also told by my great-aunts that Pedro had a
    >> wife named Anita, yet I did not see her on the census, so he may have been
    >> married after 1930.
    >>
    >> Marcos Cardona was born April 25, 1886 based on the records I have from
    >> the
    >> cemetery, however I was told by family that some were not sure exactly
    >> when
    >> he was born. I know much less about his family as he passed away in 1950
    >> in
    >> Tulare, California. I know he had several siblings, and traveled to
    >> America
    >> with brothers Daniel and Maximilliano. I also have a border crossing
    >> record
    >> for him showing an arrival date of April 7, 1923 in El Paso Texas, and on
    >> this record it says his approximate birth year was 1891. I don't know
    >> either of his parents names, but based on his death record his mother's
    >> maiden name was Ramos. He also had a sister named Daria that remained in
    >> Mexico along with other siblings.
    >> I also remember my great-grandmother Gregoria (Americanized name was
    >> Georgia) telling me how she hated her name, and it was given to her after
    >> her grandmother, or an aunt, I can't remember which one, or on which side
    >> of her family. After moving to America my great-grandparents moved to
    >> Ventura County in California and had 6 more children, Eloisa (Elsie)
    >> Cardona in 1924, Living Cardona in 1926, Monica Cardona in 1928, Living
    >> Cardona 1930 and my grandfather (living) in 1936. They also had two other
    >> children who passed away in America, one for sure was a baby named Esther,
    >> and the other was possibly stillborn or a baby, I don't know the name.
    >> Gregoria passed away in Fillmore, California in 2004.
    >>
    >> I am trying to find any links back to Mexico as well as any records which
    >> will give me more information on my family and hopefully I can find
    >> information on previous generations.
    >>
    >> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/CThreadgill

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