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Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22

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  • By Raul Padilla | Sun, 2014-09-28 18:15

    My Palestinian relatives have also told me about azuc for azucar and zapat
    for zapatos, who knew? Very interesting, I think.
    On Sep 28, 2014 3:53 PM, wrote:

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    > Calzones and pantalones might be Latin in origin, but they're used in
    > Arabic. So they got those words from the Spanish.
    >
    > There are indeed many Spanish words from Arabic, including our names:
    > Guadalupe, Omar, Fatima, Lilia and Medina are just a few that come to mind.
    >
    > Arabic language influence on the Spanish language
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_the_Spanish_l…
    >
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    > Laura Gonzalez
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    > Hello Laura,
    >
    > The point was that the word flow was not Arabic to Spanish since the
    > subject was about Arabic words in Spanish.
    >
    > I was already aware of the Spanish words from Arabic since I was a teenager
    > and I wasn't inferring otherwise.
    >
    > Armando
    >
    >
    > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:47 AM, wrote:
    >
    > > Calzones and pantalones might be Latin in origin, but they're used in
    > > Arabic. So they got those words from the Spanish.
    > >
    > > There are indeed many Spanish words from Arabic, including our names:
    > > Guadalupe, Omar, Fatima, Lilia and Medina are just a few that come to
    > mind.
    > >
    > > Arabic language influence on the Spanish language
    > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_
    > > the_Spanish_language
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22

    My Greek friends also told me that they use "camisa" for shirt and "pantalones" for trousers. What was the common language that Arabic and Greeks, etc derived from?

    > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:13:52 -0700
    > From: raulyblanca826@gmail.com
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    > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22
    >
    > My Palestinian relatives have also told me about azuc for azucar and zapat
    > for zapatos, who knew? Very interesting, I think.
    > On Sep 28, 2014 3:53 PM, wrote:
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    > > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 22:47:32 -0700 (PDT)
    > > From: mayangrl@sonic.net
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    > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Common words in Arabic and Spanish
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    > > Calzones and pantalones might be Latin in origin, but they're used in
    > > Arabic. So they got those words from the Spanish.
    > >
    > > There are indeed many Spanish words from Arabic, including our names:
    > > Guadalupe, Omar, Fatima, Lilia and Medina are just a few that come to mind.
    > >
    > > Arabic language influence on the Spanish language
    > >
    > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_the_Spanish_l…
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Laura Gonzalez
    > >
    > >
    > > ------------------------------
    > >
    > > Message: 2
    > > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:27:16 -0500
    > > From: Armando
    > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Common words in Arabic and Spanish
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    > > CADoaOsb+jFNgcy1ZPjfuDJKTB73hkKWryVxpu7K83cdG4COQ3Q@mail.gmail.com>
    > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    > >
    > > Hello Laura,
    > >
    > > The point was that the word flow was not Arabic to Spanish since the
    > > subject was about Arabic words in Spanish.
    > >
    > > I was already aware of the Spanish words from Arabic since I was a teenager
    > > and I wasn't inferring otherwise.
    > >
    > > Armando
    > >
    > >
    > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:47 AM, wrote:
    > >
    > > > Calzones and pantalones might be Latin in origin, but they're used in
    > > > Arabic. So they got those words from the Spanish.
    > > >
    > > > There are indeed many Spanish words from Arabic, including our names:
    > > > Guadalupe, Omar, Fatima, Lilia and Medina are just a few that come to
    > > mind.
    > > >
    > > > Arabic language influence on the Spanish language
    > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_
    > > > the_Spanish_language
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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    gpf13

    11 years 1 month ago

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    In reply to Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22 by meef98367

    Lanuage families

    Greek is an Indo-European language with a very long written tradition - perhaps more than 34 centuries.

    Arabic is a Semitic language, part of the large Afroasiatic language family. Written Arabic dates from the 6th century AD.

    There has been a hypothesis that there is a relationship between Indo-European and Semitic languages, but this hypothesis is not generally accepted. Thus, a common origin for Indo-european and Semitic is not suggested.

    That does not mean that words from one language do not appear in another, unrelated language. That may be a manifestation of trade, close proximity, migration, and other reasons. The Moorish conquest of the Iberian peninsula explains many words of Arabic origin in Spanish. The Arabic language influence was not uniform throughout the Iberian peninsula, thus some of the early Spanish dialects show more Arabic influence than others.

    The Wikipedia article, "Arabic language influence on the Spanish language has a long list of Spanish words with Arabic roots. There is Arabic influence in other languages, such as Latin and Greek, as well.

    George Fulton
    Pleasanton, CA

    Armando

    11 years 1 month ago

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    In reply to Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22 by meef98367

    Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22

    Camisa is a word of Celtic origin. The word made it to Latin as camisia and
    in Italian it is camicia and in Greek it is poukámiso or παντελόνι.
    Pantalón is a word of Italian origin, pantalone, as previously mentioned
    and in Greek it is pantelóni or παντελόνι. Pants in English also comes from
    the Italian word pantalone through French pantalon

    Armando

    On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Emilie Garcia
    wrote:

    > My Greek friends also told me that they use "camisa" for shirt and
    > "pantalones" for trousers. What was the common language that Arabic and
    > Greeks, etc derived from?
    >
    >

    joselegaspi

    11 years 1 month ago

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    Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22

    And, ojalá for Inch Allah.

    *Very sincerely yours,*

    *José de Jesús Legaspi*

    On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Raul Padilla
    wrote:

    > My Palestinian relatives have also told me about azuc for azucar and zapat
    > for zapatos, who knew? Very interesting, I think.
    > On Sep 28, 2014 3:53 PM,
    > wrote:
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    > > 2. Re: Common words in Arabic and Spanish (Armando)
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    > > Message: 1
    > > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 22:47:32 -0700 (PDT)
    > > From: mayangrl@sonic.net
    > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Common words in Arabic and Spanish
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    > > > &nid=22459&pid=27923&cid=27929&uid=5960&tid=
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    > >
    > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
    > >
    > > Calzones and pantalones might be Latin in origin, but they're used in
    > > Arabic. So they got those words from the Spanish.
    > >
    > > There are indeed many Spanish words from Arabic, including our names:
    > > Guadalupe, Omar, Fatima, Lilia and Medina are just a few that come to
    > mind.
    > >
    > > Arabic language influence on the Spanish language
    > >
    > >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_the_Spanish_l…
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Laura Gonzalez
    > >
    > >
    > > ------------------------------
    > >
    > > Message: 2
    > > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:27:16 -0500
    > > From: Armando
    > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Common words in Arabic and Spanish
    > > Message-ID:
    > > <
    > > CADoaOsb+jFNgcy1ZPjfuDJKTB73hkKWryVxpu7K83cdG4COQ3Q@mail.gmail.com>
    > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    > >
    > > Hello Laura,
    > >
    > > The point was that the word flow was not Arabic to Spanish since the
    > > subject was about Arabic words in Spanish.
    > >
    > > I was already aware of the Spanish words from Arabic since I was a
    > teenager
    > > and I wasn't inferring otherwise.
    > >
    > > Armando
    > >
    > >
    > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:47 AM, wrote:
    > >
    > > > Calzones and pantalones might be Latin in origin, but they're used in
    > > > Arabic. So they got those words from the Spanish.
    > > >
    > > > There are indeed many Spanish words from Arabic, including our names:
    > > > Guadalupe, Omar, Fatima, Lilia and Medina are just a few that come to
    > > mind.
    > > >
    > > > Arabic language influence on the Spanish language
    > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_
    > > > the_Spanish_language
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Laura Gonzalez
    > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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    joselegaspi

    11 years 1 month ago

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    Research Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22

    And, ojalá for Inch Allah.

    *Very sincerely yours,*

    *José de Jesús Legaspi*

    On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Raul Padilla
    wrote:

    > My Palestinian relatives have also told me about azuc for azucar and zapat
    > for zapatos, who knew? Very interesting, I think.
    > On Sep 28, 2014 3:53 PM,
    > wrote:
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    > > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 22:47:32 -0700 (PDT)
    > > From: mayangrl@sonic.net
    > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Common words in Arabic and Spanish
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    > >
    > > Calzones and pantalones might be Latin in origin, but they're used in
    > > Arabic. So they got those words from the Spanish.
    > >
    > > There are indeed many Spanish words from Arabic, including our names:
    > > Guadalupe, Omar, Fatima, Lilia and Medina are just a few that come to
    > mind.
    > >
    > > Arabic language influence on the Spanish language
    > >
    > >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_the_Spanish_l…
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Laura Gonzalez
    > >
    > >
    > > ------------------------------
    > >
    > > Message: 2
    > > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:27:16 -0500
    > > From: Armando
    > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Common words in Arabic and Spanish
    > > Message-ID:
    > > <
    > > CADoaOsb+jFNgcy1ZPjfuDJKTB73hkKWryVxpu7K83cdG4COQ3Q@mail.gmail.com>
    > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    > >
    > > Hello Laura,
    > >
    > > The point was that the word flow was not Arabic to Spanish since the
    > > subject was about Arabic words in Spanish.
    > >
    > > I was already aware of the Spanish words from Arabic since I was a
    > teenager
    > > and I wasn't inferring otherwise.
    > >
    > > Armando
    > >
    > >
    > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:47 AM, wrote:
    > >
    > > > Calzones and pantalones might be Latin in origin, but they're used in
    > > > Arabic. So they got those words from the Spanish.
    > > >
    > > > There are indeed many Spanish words from Arabic, including our names:
    > > > Guadalupe, Omar, Fatima, Lilia and Medina are just a few that come to
    > > mind.
    > > >
    > > > Arabic language influence on the Spanish language
    > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_
    > > > the_Spanish_language
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Laura Gonzalez
    > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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