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Research Digest, Vol 102, Issue 10

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    By arturdeleon | Tue, 2014-07-15 15:45

    thank you Armando, my DNA results are based on my mother sister DNA test, myself and my youngest sister. we all seem to reflect the basic findings I talked above. As to your question, whether I want to share my DNA, the answer is yes provided I am assured that by sharing you mean amongst other members who have had their DNA tested.

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    Es un  honor  que haya  tomado en  cuenta mi humilde comentario.  as? pues con referente al  mensaje anterior    ,las  personas en muchas  ocasiones  confundimos  el  mito de la realidad , pero  gracias  a  estudiosos  como usted  y  varios  compa?eros muy bien documentados  nos despejan  de  tales dudas  y  eso  de que  los  Gomez  somos todos  de  la  misma  rama  es  muy  ingenuo cualquiera  en  su  sano  juicio lo  descarta ning?n Apellido hace Jud?o  a  nadie es  parte  de las muchas pruebas que  se requieren para  ser  certificado gracias  nuevamente por su gran aportaci?n. Atte Ignacio Anaya  Gomez. 

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    Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 20:43:23 -0700
    From: Art De Leon
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    we all seem to assume that we are descendant of Spain, but just like my DNA, it reveal that my blood line has a minor percentage of an Iberian marker and more with northern and eastern?Europe and Eastern European Jewish, along with my native American marker. A number of my antepasados are listed as espa?oles or espa?ol natural, I wonder who amongst them was of jewish descent. 

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    Thanks you were very helpful.?  could eny? of? you Gentlemen.S? tell me? where?  can? i get this excellent information.

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    Jose Ignacio Anaya Gomez

    Me atrevo a hacer un breve comentario , no? sin? antes? disculparme? por?  mi poca?  elocuencia ,? pienso? que? no?  todas? la? Familias de JUD?OS SEFARD?ES fueron? expulsados con lujo de? violencia ,? claro? me? refiero a casos aislados y regularmente Familiares? muy? allegados a los? Reyes Cat?licos.? como? en?  el? caso? de? los Velasco? ya? sea? de? la? linea de Gomez Cervantes de Velasco y en? la? que? me? llega? por los? Fernandez de Velasco? o? Henriquez de Velasco? primos? muy? allegados? a los? cuales?  les? dieron? muy? buenas? encomiendas?  en? la Nueva Espa?a?  o? los? Mendoza o Figueroa de Mendoza? por? igual.? creo? que? en? el? caso? de?  Jalisco? o? los? Alte?os? fue? mas? que? expulsi?n una? manera de? protegerlos de la Santa Inquisici?n y? de su? m?ximo inquisidor Tom?s de Torquemada? muchas? gracias? Atte Ignacio? Anaya Gomez? ? ?

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    Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 21:58:00 -0700
    From: Daniel Alejandro M?ndez de Torres y Camino
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    Asi es Ignacio,

    Todo los casos son diferentes. No se la imaginacion y fascinacion que la gente tiene con? los sefardies. Lo mismo acontece cuando se menciona nobleza o hidalguia y la realeza. Algunos dicen que somos judios, otros dicen que somos arabes, otros dicen que somos indigenas, en fin depende en la genealogia de la persona. Solo porque Gomez "parece en registros de sefardies" (aun que nunca he visto tal documento, ni creo que existe) que es un apellido Gomez, no significa que todos los Gomez vienen de la misma rama. Debemos parar con estos mitos, leyendas o tradiciones orales, y enfocar el estudio con documentos fidedignos. La mayoria de la gente de los altos de Jalisco, son castellano. Lo sabemos por las genealogias son probadas exhaustivamente por mi y varios genealogistas.

    Daniel MdTC
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